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goodbye to all that – i want what SHE has

204 Sari Botton and Carolita Johnson “Oldster Magazine”

It’s the return of Sari Botton and Carolita Johnson who were last guests on the same show back in April 2018!

Sari Botton is a writer, editor and teacher living in Kingston, NY. She is the editor of the award-winning anthology Goodbye to All That: Writers on Loving and Leaving NY and its New York Times-Bestselling follow-up, Never Can Say Goodbye: Writers on Their Unshakable Love for NY. Sari publishes three newsletters: her newest endeavor Oldster Magazine, as well as Adventures in “Journalism,” and Memoir Monday. Her work has appeared in the New York TimesNew York Magazine, the Village VoiceHarper’s BazaarMarie ClaireMore, and the Rumpus, plus other publications and anthologies. She is a contributing editor and leads essay writing and anthology editing at Catapult and is an adjunct in the MFA program at Bay Path University. Her memoir-in-essays, And You May Find Yourself… will be published by Heliotrope in June, 2022. Sari is the former Essays Editor for Longreads and hopes to one day reopen her co-working space for writers, Kingston Writers’ Studio.

Carolita Johnson is a cartoonist and illustrator from NYC. She spent 13 years in Paris, France, after graduating from Parson’s School of Design with a degree in Fashion Design. In Paris, she earned a masters degree in Modern Letters and Linguistics, and got some (admittedly very idiosyncratic) chops in pre-doctoral Medieval Anthropology, which turned out to be a gateway drug to cartoons and illustration. Her cartoons appear in the new yorker magazine, and in the books: the rejection collection 1, and the rejection collection 2, and sex and sensibility, and she’s illustrated the books the new vampire’s handbook, and women on food. Carolita is also a writer who has contributed to, has an essay in the 2021 reprint of Sari Botton’s, goodbye to all that as well as a recent piece in Oldster Magazine on the inner workings of a woman’s body.

We start out by checking in with what’s new with these two since they were last on the show, and then get into a thought provoking conversation based in the essence of Oldster Mag, “perspectives on the joys and frustrations on getting older – at any stage of life.” This means we talk about the aging woman’s body, how it’s largely ignored by the medical industry, ageism, how these two feel about being 56, what’s good about it and what’s not so good about it. Plus they make some reading recommendations that I’ve already started on myself!

Here’s a link to the 10% Happier Podcast I mentioned about ending polarization and the “I, We, I” curve that we can all work to shift.

Here’s a link to the Joan Didion essay, “Goodbye to All That.

Thanks to Warren from Radio Kingston for engineering today’s show!

Our show music is from Shana Falana !!!

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