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S.1 E.3 Dancing With Water – Perdita Finn “Mothers of Magic”

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Perdita Finn is the co-founder, with her husband Clark Strand, of the feral fellowship The Way of the Rose, which inspired their book The Way of the Rose: The Radical Path of the Divine Feminine Hidden in the Rosary. They are currently at work on their next book together Circles Not Lines: Spiritual Community Beyond Patriarchy.  To find out more about her devotion to “ecology not theology” visit wayoftherose.org

In addition to extensive study with Zen masters, priests, spirit workers, and healers, she apprenticed with the psychic Susan Saxman, with whom she wrote The Reluctant Psychic. Perdita Finn now teaches popular workshops on Getting to Know the Dead. Participants are empowered to activate the miracles in their own lives with the help of their ancestors and recover their own intuitive magic. Her book Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World is an intimate journey through her recovery of these lost ways. She speaks widely on how to collaborate with those on the other side, on the urgent necessity of a new romantic animism, and on the sobriety that emerges when we claim the long story of our souls. Her next book is Mothers of Magic: Summoning the Wisdom of Our Ancestors, to be released on May 5th, 2026.

Perdita begins by talking about the idea of redefining Mothering beyond gender, something that feels so important in today’s world where Mothering has been sidelined by the patriarchy. She offers some strong guidance to men about the role of Grandmothers which helps us move towards collective Mothering. So much of Perdita’s work and book centers on a calling upon the dead. As such we get to hear how this connects with Mothering, how to speak with the dead, and viewing our worries or fretting as an act of prayer calling out for help from the unseen. 

You can connect with all of Perdita’s work at https://takebackthemagic.com/

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S. 1 E. 2 Dancing with Water with Dr. Catherine Svehla

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Today on the show we are in conversation with Catherine Svehla, PhD, an independent scholar, storyteller, and mentor in the mythic life. She works with artists on their projects and process, and guides people through work/life transitions by connecting them with their inner wisdom. She is the creator of the Myth Matters podcast (part of the Joseph Campbell Foundation’s MythMaker℠ Podcast Network) and also shares the transformative power of myths and fairytales through story-based workshops and events. Catherine holds a PhD in mythology and depth psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute and has been working the liminal fields of myth, creativity, and consciousness for 30 years. Learn more at mythicmojo.com

Today we explore “the feminine” archetype beginning with Dr. Svehla’s understanding of Jung’s “feminine” and why she advises finding different methods of achieving our shared goal of shifting the power dynamic of the patriarchy. We learn about the philosophy of post Jungian Feminists who offer better working models for us and why Catherine believes it’s important to avoid the Essentialist perspective of fixed gender qualities. So how does gender play a role in all of this? Let us know your thoughts in this ongoing collaborative conversation. 

Dr. Svehla will be in the Hudson Valley next week as a part of Kelli Scar’s Lesser Mysteries happenings.  She will be holding a talk about “The Problem of the Return” on April 29th, 2026 at the Art Society of Kingston.  

Here’s our previous conversation with Dr. Svehla from September 2025. 

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S.1 E.1 Dancing with Water with Lorís Simón Salum

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Lorís Simón Salum is a Jungian psychotherapist whose work lives at the intersection of psyche, body, and symbol. Based in Houston, she works with dreams, sandtray, and LENS neurofeedback. Her path is deeply influenced by the Marion Woodman tradition, and she is currently a training candidate at the C.G. Jung Institute in Zürich. Alongside her clinical work, she is developing a documentary project on the relationship between symbol and embodied transformation.

In 2013 she released her documentary film Ensoulment, A Diverse Analysis of the Feminine in Western Culture, portraying a road to self discovery through the tangles of Jungian theory, cultural narratives and personal intuition. An internationally award-winning film that screened across multiple countries and numerous cities. 

Our conversation weaves through topics on “the feminine,” how gender is related to and separate from feminine and masculine embodiment, the role women play in patriarchy and moving beyond it, the inner lives of men, and finding balance amongst it all.

You can learn more about Lorís’s work at lorissimon.com, and follow her on Instagram.

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380 Jennifer Mulak’s “Heroine’s Journey”

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It’s time for The Feminine Frequency! This month, co-host Jennifer Mulak shares with us her own Heroine’s Journey.

Jennifer is the founder, alchemist and earth steward behind Cosmic Mother – where she offers a line of botanical skincare, herbal potions, and energy work.

She is a healer, a problem solver, an herbalist, flower practitioner and energy worker, a writer, a recovering rule follower, and a curious student of spiritual teachings. She is delighted to make her home in Shokan, NY with her partner, Ariel, and their two rescue pups.

As she continues to strip away years of programming and societal and familial conditioning, the plants support her every step of the way. She continues to deepen into connection with Nature and the energy around her, and her own internal guidance.

We get to hear about Jennifer’s life through the lens of the stages of the Heroine’s Journey, from her early separation from the feminine and identification with the masculine to experiencing the boon of success in finance. Jennifer’s life on Wall Street started out fun and rewarding, but several years into it, she began feeling its emptiness and yearned for something more. Her intuition and a series of life events led her to plants and a life coach who helped her build a plan that allowed her to begin manifesting her heart and souls dreams. Things haven’t always gone as planned. She’s had to watch our for patriarchal programming to keep it at bay, but she’s quick to catch it and works to keep herself and her life in a healthy balance between the masculine and the feminine.

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376 Theresa’s Heroine’s Journey

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Today on the show, Jennifer Mulak interviews Theresa as she shares much of her life story through the lens of the Heroine’s Journey. Growing up as a “father’s daugher” and identifying with career over motherhood, Theresa assimilated with the masculine, finding masculine allies and often being the sole female member of various “boys clubs.” When her planned wedding was canceled, it woke her up to the choices she was making in life and how she had drifted far from the things she was truly passionate about. She talks about the struggles to leave the various patriarchal settings, the status and the financial success of that world, and how her journey to become a mother really rooted her in a reclaiming of the feminine and a return to wholeness. Do you have a story that relates to the Heroine’s Journey? Let us know how it resonates for you.

Happy New Moon! Here’s an essay from Cory Nakasue on Saturn’s Entrance into Aries.

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375 The Heroine’s Journey

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I had a last minute change in plans due to a health emergency with my planned guest, but I took that as an opportunity to dig a little deeper into the Heroine’s Journey which Jennifer and I will be folding into our conversations on The Feminine Frequency (next week). Here’s a rough outline from The Heroine’s Journey Project. Let me know if you relate!

  1. HEROINE SEPARATES FROM THE FEMININE. The “feminine” is often a mother/mentor figure or a societally prescribed feminine/marginalized/outsider role.
  2. IDENTIFICATION WITH THE MASCULINE & GATHERING OF ALLIES. The heroine embraces a new way of life. This often involves choosing a path that is different than the heroine’s prescribed societal role, gearing up to “fight” an organization/role/group that is limiting the heroine’s life options, or entering some masculine/dominant-identity defined sphere.
  3. ROAD/TRIALS AND MEETING OGRES & DRAGONS. The heroine encounters trials and meets people who try to dissuade the heroine from pursuing their chosen path, or who try to destroy the heroine.
  4. EXPERIENCING THE BOON OF SUCCESS. The heroine overcomes the obstacles in their way. (This is typically where the hero’s journey ends.)
  5. HEROINE AWAKENS TO FEELINGS OF SPIRITUAL ARIDITY/DEATH. The heroine’s new way of life (attempting the masculine/dominant identity) is too limited. Their success in this new way of life is either temporary, illusory, shallow, or requires a betrayal of self over time.
  6. INITIATION & DESCENT TO THE GODDESS. The heroine faces a crisis of some sort in which the new way of life is insufficient, and the heroine falls into despair. All of the masculine/dominant-group strategies have failed them.
  7. HEROINE URGENTLY YEARNS TO RECONNECT WITH THE FEMININE. The heroine wants to, but is unable to return to their initial limited state/position.
  8. HEROINE HEALS THE MOTHER/DAUGHTER SPLIT. The heroine reclaims some of their initial values, skills, or attributes (or those of others like them) but now views these traits from a new perspective.
  9. HEROINE HEALS THE WOUNDED MASCULINE WITHIN. The heroine makes peace with the “masculine” approach to the world as it applies to them.
  10.  HEROINE INTEGRATES THE MASCULINE & FEMININE. In order to face the world/future with a new understanding of themselves and the world/life, the heroine integrates the “masculine” and “feminine” qualities/perspectives. This permits the heroine to see through binaries and to interact with a complex world that includes the heroine but is also larger than their personal lifetime or their geographical/cultural milieu.

We heard music from Cornelia Murr who will be joining me in the studio on June 2nd and playing Tubby’s on June 6th.

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373 Sovereignty

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I had a last minute shift in plans for today’s show, so I took the opportunity to talk about the subject of Sovereignty starting with a history of cinco de mayo and then shared from Sharon Blackie’s, If Women Rose Rooted, where she shares about the Goddess Sovereignty.

As mentioned on the show, here’s Katherine Franke’s Instagram account if you want a primer on the legal issues that are being raised on the regular.

Here’s the info on the fundraiser for Woodstock Land Conservancy where Rebecca Martin will receive an award. Related to land and water conservancy, I read again from Sharon Blackie’s book about the story of the voices of the wells.

In other good news, Utopia Upstate from Lucia Cote utopia@utopiaupstate.com, a new communal work space and gallery has one remaining studio space available.

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Becca Piastrelli’s “Belonging” podcast is lovely.

Ana’s Callahan is teaching her Venus Day Class at The Bridge in Kingston.

And shout out to Rita Vanacore who was recognized yesterday for all she’s done for community.

We heard music from Jayla Kai, Rebecca Martin, Callie Mackenzie, and Jill Sobule.

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FACEBOOK * https://www.facebook.com/iwantwhatshehaspodcastI had a last minute shift in plans for today’s show, so I took the opportunity to talk about the subject of Sovereignty starting with a history of cinco de mayo and then shared from Sharon Blackie’s, If Women Rose Rooted, where she shares about the Goddess Sovereignty.

As mentioned on the show, here’s Katherine Franke’s Instagram account if you want a primer on the legal issues that are being raised on the regular.

Here’s the info on the fundraiser for Woodstock Land Conservancy where Rebecca Martin will receive an award. Related to land and water conservancy, I read again from Sharon Blackie’s book about the story of the voices of the wells.

In other good news, Utopia Upstate from Lucia Cote utopia@utopiaupstate.com, a new communal work space and gallery has one remaining studio space available.

Hot tips…

Becca Piastrelli’s “Belonging” podcast is lovely.

Ana’s Callahan is teaching her Venus Day Class at The Bridge in Kingston.

And shout out to Rita Vanacore who was recognized yesterday for all she’s done for community.

We heard music from Jayla Kai, Rebecca Martin, Callie Mackenzie, and Jill Sobule.

Today’s show was engineered by Ian Seda from Radiokingston.org.

Our show music is from Shana Falana!

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371 The Feminine Frequency with Jennifer Mulak

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Today I start an exciting new monthly conversation with Jennifer Mulak, titled The Feminine Frequency which is a reweaving of the feminine ways of being into ourselves, our relations, and the containers and systems that support life in community. Inspired by our own lived experiences and supported by Dr. Sharon Blackie’s work and book, If Women Rose Rooted (amongst other wisdom keepers) we hope to explore the undoing of the patriarchal programming that we are all immersed in. On this inaugural show, we share the inspiration for The Feminine Frequency, how it came into its initial shape, some currently relevant feminine practices including pulling a card from Dr. Blackie’s Rooted Woman Tarot Deck, and what we hope to explore together and with you in future shows. During our embodiment practice for this show, Jennifer shares some ways the Spring plants can be supportive to you, and I share a little of the New Moon forecast for this Sunday by way of Tanaaz at Forever Conscious. “This New Moon wants us, as much as possible, to focus our attention on the outcome we are after, rather than the problems we are navigating.” This is exactly what The Feminine Frequency is about, what do we want our world to look like as we rebalance the feminine with the masculine, and how do we align with that vision.

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370 4th Anniversary of Spirituality and Politics

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It’s the 4th anniversary of Spirituality and Politics with Marielena! We start off talking about getting off social media, simplifying life, conflict resolution, and post-patriarchal living. She was recently talking about Leading with Artivism with Poet Gold, and she shared the differences between activist and advocate and why she considers herself an advocate. Inspired by that conversation, we talk about why people are so eager to believe or follow a “leader” or “waiting for superman.” Closing the show with the Full Moon report and some self-love, linked below.

How to retrain your brain to crave movement more than screen time…

Full Moon Report!

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367 Perdita Finn “Take Back the Magic”

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Perdita Finnis the co-founder, with her husband Clark Strand, of the feral fellowship The Way of the Rose, which inspired their book The Way of the Rose: The Radical Path of the Divine Feminine Hidden in the Rosary. They are currently at work on their next book together Circles Not Lines: Spiritual Community Beyond Patriarchy.

In addition to extensive study with Zen masters, priests, spirit workers, and healers, she apprenticed with the psychic Susan Saxman, with whom she wrote The Reluctant Psychic. Perdita Finn now teaches popular workshops on Getting to Know the Dead. Participants are empowered to activate the miracles in their own lives with the help of their ancestors and recover their own intuitive magic. Her book Take Back the Magic: Conversations with the Unseen World is an intimate journey through her recovery of these lost ways. She speaks widely on how to collaborate with those on the other side, on the urgent necessity of a new romantic animism, and on the sobriety that emerges when we claim the long story of our souls. Her next book is The Body of My Mother.

She lives with her family in the moss-filled shadows of the Catskill Mountains.

Today Perdita shares with us about how the fellowship began… post-patriarchy… the economy of prayer… communicating with the other side and asking for help from them. She entertains my questions about prayer, soul connections and lots more. She is leading a workshop this weekend on Soul Connections, and one this summer at Omega. You can subscribe to her Substack and become a supporter to join her monthly Zoom calls. I am so grateful for her time with me and all her work in this world.

Here’s Nikki Fogerty’s Weekly Tarot Reading

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