#12 Carolita Johnson(New Yorker Cartoonist) / Sari Botton (Writer, NY Times ) “Learning to Say No”

Theresa and guest hostess Carolita Johnson, artist and New Yorker cartoonist, talk about Carolita’s journey back and forth between New York City and Paris, dodging careers your parents envision for you, and becoming an artist on your own terms. They are joined by special guest Sari Botton, writer, Essays Editor at Longreads, Editorial Director at TMI Project, editor of Goodbye to All That and Never Can Say Goodbye, and founder of Kingston Writer’s Studio.